Christians who claim Jesus is God because Bible says I and the father are one
➡️30 I and the Father are one.
➡️31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him,
➡️32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
➡️33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
➡️34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods.
➡️35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of Godcame—and Scripture cannot be set aside—
➡️36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
➡️37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.
➡️38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.
Here in this context Jesus reminds Jews who played this trick of accusing him he is god or claims to be
➡️He said you too claim are gods 😂
In the Bible god is not God, Son of God is not God, Now if they say that the bible says “I and the father are one “We respond that this is a union of purpose not nature And we ask them to read the following 👇
that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
Christians!! Why do you twist verses to mislead humans ?
📔John 10:30“ I and my Father are one””One” what does it mean ? Being one essence ?! Let us see what jesus meant by ” one “
I will no longer be in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to You. Holy Father, protect them by Your name, the name You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one.
So that they may be one as we are one ” If “one”means one essence then the apostles are one essence !! Can apostles be one ?!! Indeed , being one means being in one side against evil and Satan The truth is confirmed by these verses 👇
📔John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of Him that sent me.
Jesus has his own will and God has his own will so we have two distinct wills One essence means one will.
➡️And the word father in the languge of the bible refer to The one God ..,any good man in bible was call God by father..but the people after that miss understod this word many times And about the word father, Jesus said in bible that God is his father like also God is your father, the same meaning which we expalind it before
Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.
My father and your father .,my God and your God, He is like us a servant only
➡️In bible Abraham was the son of God and Jacob and solomon and David and adam, So the word son of God mean a good man whos follow God, no more than this meaning .. Not like you and your father ,,
God all mighty is no like any thing ..ever
📔John 10:30 “The Father and I are one.
The above statement is attributed to have been made by Jesus and Christians cite it as an evidence that God and Jesus are coequal and coeternal !
➡️If God and Jesus are equal, how comes then God wasn’t born by mother Mary as it is the case with Jesus. Matthew 1:18, Luke 1:26-27 ?
➡️Luke 2:21 How come God wasn’t circumcised as Jesus was. Luke 2:21 ?
➡️How come God wasn’t allegedly killed by Romans as it was allegedly the case with Jesus. 1 Corinthians 15:3 ?
➡️How come God didn’t call people to BREAKFAST as the case with Jesus. John 21:12 ?
➡️How come God wasn’t tempted by Satan as it was the case with Jesus. Matthew 4:1-10 ?
➡️How come God didn’t cry and prayed and Jesus did. Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34 & John 11:35 ?
➡️How come God didn’t pray as Jesus did. Matthew 26:39 ?
➡️How come God didn’t hunger and thirst as Jesus did. John 4:6-7 ?
➡️How come God never sleep as Jesus did. Mark 4:35 ?
➡️How come God never get tired as Jesus did John 4:6 ?
➡️How come God never ever chased moneychangers with whip as Jesus did John 2:15 ?
➡️How come God is neither a man nor son of man “Numbers 23:19″ while Jesus is a man “John 8:40” and son of man Matthew 11:19 ?
➡️Is Jesus really coequal and coeternal with God? Then, what happened to Isaiah 40:18&25 ?
⛔Just answers ONLY
➡️Christians! Why do you twist verses to mislead humans ?
➡️John 10:30 “I and my Father are one”
“One” what does it mean ? Being one essence ?! Let us see what jesus meant by ” one.
I will no longer be in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to You. Holy Father, protect them by Your name, the name You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one. So that they may be one as we are one “
If “one”means one essence then the apostles are one essence !!
Can apostles be one ?!! Indeed , being one means being in one side against evil and Satan. The truth is confirmed by these verses 👇
📔John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of Him that sent me.
Jesus has his own will and God has his own will so we have two distinct wills One essence means one will
➡️I and the father are one ?
The Jews in Solomon’s porch misunderstood Jesus’ (PBUH) words, exactly, like the Christian’s, therefore, ‘the Jews took up stones again to stone him…For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest, thyself God. Jesus (PBUH) realized their misunderstanding, and was surprised, how they could misunderstand his words since they are well acquainted with the Bible’s metaphoric language. Quoting what comes in 👇
📔Psalms 82:6, he answered them, ‘Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?’
He meant that, how could you be surprised with my words since it is common in your book, which made all Israelites gods metaphorically? Therefore, Jesus (PBUH) deserves being a metaphoric god, more than all the Israelites. 👇
📔John 10:35-37 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came. Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? If I do not the works of my Father,
believe me not.
Giving his opinion about this passage, Matta El Meskeen said, “Jesus quoted Psalm 82, for God’s angel gives this attribute to the council that gathered to judge according to God’s word… and that is an answer to their claim, which considered Jesus as committing
➡️1.Priest James Anis concludes that one has to explain the verses metaphorically if the chapter is full of metaphoric, which one cannot explain it literally. How about this verse that is metaphoric?
See Methodical Divinity Science, James Anis, pp 713)
➡️Blasphemy, while all those who received God’s words are considered in the Torah as gods. Therefore, with this verse from Psalms, Jesus (PBUH) corrected the Jews’ and the Christians’ misunderstanding about his unity with Allah. This way of expression about the similarity of will and objective, is common in the Christians’ sacred writings, especially in the Gospel according to John. Quoting Jesus, about the disciples, John said, 👇
📔John 17:20-23 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they ( the disciples) also may be one in us that, they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me.
This dwelling and incarnation are metaphoric; otherwise, we should consider the disciples as gods. The passage uses the word “as”, which denotes similarity between, the two parties, and the meaning is, (as Jesus and the father are one, also the disciples, Jesus and the father are one), meaning, similar in objective, and not self-similarity, for no Christian speaks of a real self unity of Jesus and his disciples. In another passage, Jesus (PBUH) mentioned the same meaning. He said about the disciples 👇
📔John 17:11 Holy Father, keep through your own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
That means as our unity is an objective unity; therefore, their unity should be like ours as well. Similarly, a verse comes in another chapter. 👇
📔John 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Paul said the same 👇
📔2 Corinthians 6:16 For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Again, Paul said, ‘I have planted, Apollos watered. 👇
📔1 Corinthians 3:8
The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor.
Paul’s unity with Apollo, is also
the shared objective unity.
➡️1. The Gospel according to John, Priest Matta Almeskeen, Vol. 1, pp 643-644
Describing the relationship between husband and wife, the Torah says, 👇
📔Genesis 2:24 therefore, shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be
Means they are the same, not because their two bodies became one body.
➡️Therefore, we should not understand these verses shallowly and literally, as Matthew said, ‘And said, 👇
📔Matt. 19:5 for this cause shall a man
leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
The same is for Jesus (PBUH) when he said, “I and the father are one.
➡️The Quran mentions the same about Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), but the Muslims do not understand or take it as real God incarnation in Mohammad (PBUH).
📔Quran 48:10 Indeed, those who pledge allegiance to you, [O Muhammad] – they are actually pledging allegiance to Allah . The hand of Allah is over their hands. So he who breaks his word only breaks it to the detriment of himself. And he who fulfills that which he has promised Allah – He will give him a great reward.
No Muslim said, or will say, that Allah (S.W) and His Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) are one self, unlike what Christians say
regarding Jesus’ (PBUH) saying, “I and the father are one.
As for son of God, Does God have a son?
➡️Concerning son of God, father and daughters of God..etc these are all mytaphorical in the Bible
➡️For example jesus said in Matthew 15:24 I sent only to lost sheep of israel”
Were israelists sheep? No but language is metapore means : misguided servants of God
📖Number 23:19 God is not a man or son of man
📖Mathew 12:40 Jesus son of man
📖John 8:40 jesus a man
📖King 1 malach 3:6 God does not change then is it logical to make Jesus God!
All prophets called sons of God in bible
Adam, who was the son of God.
📖 Exodus 4:22
Jacob is God’s son and firstborn: ‘Israel is my son, even my firstborn.
📖2 Samuel 7:13-14
Solomon: ‘I will be his father, and he shall be my son.
Ephraim: ‘for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.
is God’s firstborn, common people are called the sons of God: ‘Ye are the children of the Lord your God.
WHO IS THE FIRST SON OF GOD?
📖Genesis 41:51 says MENASSEH is the FIRST son of God!
📖Exodus 4:22 says ISRAEL is the FIRST son of God!
📖Psalms 89:27 says DAVID is the FIRST son of God!
📖Jeremiah 31:9 says EPHRAIM is the FIRST son of God!
This clearly shows son means pious persons not literally meant as Christians believe
And if we love Jesus we shoul be called begotten sons of God
📖1 John 5:1
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters. 20And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.
And Guess what Bible also says
Daughters of god
➡️We humans need a son to help us, And inherit us after we we die, If God all powerful, Does he then need help? Does God will die and need son to inherit him ?
➡️So why God should has son? The language of Bible is metaphorical For example jesus said in
I sent only to the lost sheep of israel.
Were israelists animals?
No more debate after these infos on son of god
🔹Jesus says the voice of God you have never heard and says he is a messenger, Jesus is a messenger.
📖John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath SENT me.” (John 5:30)
and is not a God at all
📖1 John 4:12
No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.
📖Deut. 12:32 don’t add to ur scripture anything
Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.
Nathaniel asks Jesus are u the son of god?
Jesus says, Truly Iam the son of man and Angels comes down on the son of man not son of god.
Yet in the Bible
📖Luke 12:9 reports son of man
📖John 5:16 John have no knowledge and only reports
📖John 3:16 John has no knowledge and only reports
📖in Acts 4:13 Peter and John were of no knowledge
Therefore Bible says John and Peter have no knowledge because, Quran also 18:4 says, Anyone who claims that Jesus is a son of God has no knowledge, We finish with this Quranic Surat 👇
1. Say, “He is Allah , [who is] One,
2. Allah , the Eternal Refuge.
3. He neither begets nor is born,
4. Nor is there to Him any equivalent.
Son of God
➡️More than 4 sons of god In Bible and 4 Different gods In Bible (Dear Christians make your own mind first before you fabricate about islam)
4 different Sons of God in Bible
➡️Christians claim that Jesus was the Only Son of God. According to Bible they mostly refer to Gospel of John (Paul’s Doctrine). Such as
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
“Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son,
However, Again Christians are wrong. In this post I will show that Bible and Christians also contradicts themselves. According to Bible Adam, David and Jacob were also the sons of God
📖In Gospel Luke 3:38 Adam was the son of god “Kenan was the son of Enosh. Enosh was the son of Seth. Seth was the son of Adam. Adam was the son of God.
📖In Exodus 4:22 Jacob was god’s first born
“Then you will tell him, ‘this is what the LORD says: Israel (Jacob) is my firstborn son.
➡️David was also the son of God in Psalms
“I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten you.
➡️So, who inspired Christians that Jesus was the only son of god? Bible itself claims god having four sons. Either they haven’t read the bible properly or they are ignoring the biblical corruption and errors, It was all a man’s work, and even if Christian belief Jesus as the only Son than they are against the teachings of Bible or simply ignorant.
➡️Moreover, Psalm 2:7 uses the word begotten for David and Jacob was god first born, Simply a Christian can’t reject these verses.
Different God in Bible
➡️There is No one specific God stated in Bible for example in Islam Muslims kids even know God’s is only one with one unique name “Allah” who does have different attributes. But Different Bible gives different names for Christian god. So who is the real god of Christians? The names of god in bible are Jehovah, Yahweh, Adonai, and Lord. While some are drop but other are still in use: King James Version and American Standard Version use Jehovah for God World English Bible and New Jerusalem Bible (Hebrew text) uses Yahweh
While other use Lord for God, For Example
📖Exodus 6:3 Jehovah is god in Bible
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
📖Exodus 8:1 Yahweh is also god in Bible
“Yahweh spoke to Moses, Go in to Pharaoh, and tell him, “This is what Yahweh says, ‘Let my people go, that they may serve me.
📖Matthew 27:46 Eloi is also god in Bible
“About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?”–which means, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
➡️In Jewish Version of Bible (CJB) the Name “Adonai” is used for God
Example, Complete Jewish Bible 1Samuel 16: 1 “Adonai said to Sh’mu’el, “How much longer are you going to go on grieving for Sha’ul, now that I have rejected him as king over Isra’el? Fill your horn with oil, and set out; I will send you to Yishai the Beit-Lachmi, because I have chosen myself a king from among his sons.
➡️So Christians are confused and they even don’t have one name of god to use. How a true religion can has different name of God? Might be different gods? We also can not conclude which is the real god? And to whom Christian should follow? If you translate Yahweh, Jehovah and Adonai in Hebrew They all have same meanings that’s “god, Which is the real God then?
➡️Some Christians try to prove that Yhvh is the real name by presenting all names of god it in Hebrew. Let us Look how to write names in Hebrew
➡️adonai – אדונים
➡️yhvh – ה ‘
I think this further proof that there are different gods of Christian.